I was wondering about something...

January 2014 - average was 41k online
June 2014 - average was 32k online
December 2014 - average was 27k online
May 2015 - average was 21k online
August 2015 - average is 16k online

today I logged in at 14793 online.....

Evidently not.

Yeah, yeah. For the entirety of EVE existance people come with delusions of importance brought from the experience of other games or other deluded people.

And if you really know EVE, you know this was never a solo or casual friendly place, EVER.

But you can try to indulge on self pity as long as you like. People does that all the time.

"Oh, I lost stuff, the game is not what it used to be."
"Oh, they exploded my ship and I did nothing, I gonna quit."
"Oh, they were mean in the chat and ccp didnt do nothing, I gonna quit."

And other some such "everyone has to make me the epic hero in this game every other game does".

There is always one of those around.

We were talking about how your supposed competitive PvE had no PvE in it.

... Without light, there are no colors.)

Lucas I do not understand where instancing happens in Eve. Please clarify your position, some examples would be good.

Blah blah blah, TL:DR people still thing it takes a long time to be good.

Let us compare to any other MMO. Reasonable and average gamer play. I start. I select class. Four months later, I am top tier..... If I grind experience... Want to do some other class? Restart or respec.

Eve online. Two days training, and easily can have a fit that can assist the most veteran players. Three months, can be pretty well trained into a roll. Six months, you have found that role you like and are pretty specialized.

Problem is the players who all want to be top DPS capital ship pilots. And players who think somebody is np good if under 10m sp for some reason. Newbs are extra damage, support and ewar in cheap fits. Seems full win to me. On top, grind is only for shinies. I gain SP even if just sightseeing.

It would now appear there are two open threads about plex prices. Time for ISD to lock at lwast one of them.

1. I don't care.

2. This is one of them.

Because we have had no new content since 2009 and all the patches since December 2009 have been focused on "Fixing" existing stuff.

The focus on fixing stuff is post summer 2011, the period 2009-summer 2011 saw the introduction of the Pirate epic arcs, Planetary Interaction and Incursions, unfortunately it also saw CCP waste precious dev cycles on failing to deliver WiS in any meaningful way.

Incarna was the death knell for jesus features and the 6 monthly release cycle, the focus since then on fixing all the broken stuff incrementally, while not breaking anything else too badly, should be beneficial in the long run if CCP Seagulls vision comes to fruition.

Delivering new content relies on there being a robust and functional foundation to build upon, fixing code that is the better part of a decade old and probably undocumented is necessary for CCP to be able to have that robust and functional framework in place. Much still needs to be revisited, and CCP appear to be doing so in order to deliver us something that may be Apocrypha-like in scale if it manages to live up to their 5 year plan.

TL;DR What we see in the client and the patchnotes isn't the only dev work going on at CCP. They could be a little more forthcoming about how close they are to player stargates etc though, being kept in the dark does give the illusion that there is no plan, or that it isn't being followed.

It is not the weight of the mechanics which limit white knighting. It is the play style choice of those involved. The ideal gank target is a solo player with no interest in shooting others. Such a player will probably not have the inclination to learn how to track -10s locations and make them targets. There is much misinformation about how one can hurt gankers in anti ganking channels.

Please note I am not saying that when one is ganked they should fight back nor implying it is their own fault, I am just saying anyone can use the game mechanics to their own end and my observation is that some use the mechanics more than others.

EvE is a very slow game.

Everything about society is going faster.

While I like this game because of it's slow pace, others dislike it for that very reason.

EvE seems to be more of a social experience with a game attached to it than a game first.

You log into eve, remain docked, be on voice comms, and you alt tab and play league of legends or watch Netflix until "something" happens.

Sadly, most people no longer have the patience to sit around and wait, which seems to be largely what EvE is. 99% waiting for that really amazing 1%.

Seems like life to me. Of course what you call wasting time I call preparation.

Everyone should just calm down. It will be ok once the wave of new players hits the servers because of the awox nerf as predicted by CCP and by the usual carebears.

If anyone needed any confirmation that Eve really is dying this time, and that CCP is starting to get very concerned and desperate...

Look no further